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		<title>By: Hari</title>
		<link>http://indiafirsthand.com/2010/03/17/swami-ramdev-establishes-political-party-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-6193</link>
		<dc:creator>Hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 23:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

Homosexuality is not considered as a sickness or a disease by any reputable medical institution or organization in this world.  You are simply being homophobic.  What the “church” agrees is irrelevant.  The “church” at one point thought that whites were superior to blacks and Indians, that slavery was ok and that women can be the property of men!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>Homosexuality is not considered as a sickness or a disease by any reputable medical institution or organization in this world.  You are simply being homophobic.  What the “church” agrees is irrelevant.  The “church” at one point thought that whites were superior to blacks and Indians, that slavery was ok and that women can be the property of men!</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>homosexuals are mentally sick if u dont recognize thateven u are
mentally sick even the church agrees that u of all civilisations hindus should be proud of ur culture and its teaching instead of disgracing a person of such high values</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>homosexuals are mentally sick if u dont recognize thateven u are<br />
mentally sick even the church agrees that u of all civilisations hindus should be proud of ur culture and its teaching instead of disgracing a person of such high values</p>
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		<title>By: Hari</title>
		<link>http://indiafirsthand.com/2010/03/17/swami-ramdev-establishes-political-party-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-6125</link>
		<dc:creator>Hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 22:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one of the &quot;people of India&quot; I can tell you that I am fully capable of looking after myself.  It is also my personal opinion that you can eradicate corruption and fight the caste system without running for political office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one of the &#8220;people of India&#8221; I can tell you that I am fully capable of looking after myself.  It is also my personal opinion that you can eradicate corruption and fight the caste system without running for political office.</p>
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		<title>By: Hari</title>
		<link>http://indiafirsthand.com/2010/03/17/swami-ramdev-establishes-political-party-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-6123</link>
		<dc:creator>Hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 22:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a lot to lose Kushal.  The ruling party and the opposition party may not be good.  But we cannot argue with the fact that India&#039;s economy for the past 10 years is growing at around 8% a year.  Why risk this growth by handing over the country to someone who thinks that 100% boycott of foreign companies and 100% voting are good ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a lot to lose Kushal.  The ruling party and the opposition party may not be good.  But we cannot argue with the fact that India&#8217;s economy for the past 10 years is growing at around 8% a year.  Why risk this growth by handing over the country to someone who thinks that 100% boycott of foreign companies and 100% voting are good ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Kushal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kushal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is no point in arguing whether Baba Ramdev is a genuine entity or not. Anyhow we know that both the ruling party and the opposition party are not good. So why not be open to a change in the form of Baba Ramdev. We can conclude later. We have nothing to lose here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is no point in arguing whether Baba Ramdev is a genuine entity or not. Anyhow we know that both the ruling party and the opposition party are not good. So why not be open to a change in the form of Baba Ramdev. We can conclude later. We have nothing to lose here.</p>
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		<title>By: shiv kumar banwal</title>
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		<dc:creator>shiv kumar banwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baba Ram Dev Ji You can suceed in the politics if you brears the barriers of the caste system prevails in india. You are requested to look after all the people of India. It is also brought to your notice that Miss Mayawati also wants to eredicate this system but she was failed by some people of narrow minded. Remove corruption along with caste than you will definitely succeed. I also join your party. Tell me the way to join the party.
Thanks
Shiv Kumar Banwal
B.A (Hons) Pol.Sc. M.Ed. M.A. Eco. LLB
Lecturer Eco. Delhi Aided School</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baba Ram Dev Ji You can suceed in the politics if you brears the barriers of the caste system prevails in india. You are requested to look after all the people of India. It is also brought to your notice that Miss Mayawati also wants to eredicate this system but she was failed by some people of narrow minded. Remove corruption along with caste than you will definitely succeed. I also join your party. Tell me the way to join the party.<br />
Thanks<br />
Shiv Kumar Banwal<br />
B.A (Hons) Pol.Sc. M.Ed. M.A. Eco. LLB<br />
Lecturer Eco. Delhi Aided School</p>
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		<title>By: Hari</title>
		<link>http://indiafirsthand.com/2010/03/17/swami-ramdev-establishes-political-party-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-6081</link>
		<dc:creator>Hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biz,

As Bertrand Russell once said &quot;&lt;em&gt;The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt&lt;/em&gt;&quot;.  I have doubt when it comes to Ramdev and his claims!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biz,</p>
<p>As Bertrand Russell once said &#8220;<em>The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt</em>&#8220;.  I have doubt when it comes to Ramdev and his claims!</p>
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		<title>By: Biz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I know, people like you are the greatest deasease for India. By the way I also work as a professional engineer in north america.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I know, people like you are the greatest deasease for India. By the way I also work as a professional engineer in north america.</p>
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		<title>By: Hari</title>
		<link>http://indiafirsthand.com/2010/03/17/swami-ramdev-establishes-political-party-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-5938</link>
		<dc:creator>Hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stating the truth is not a rant.  If it is then is all the complaining that you Ram Dev supporters do regarding corruption could also be considered as ranting!

What evidence do you have to show that the 8th grader has surpassed PhD’s in medical science?  Are we supposed to just believe you and take your word for it?  The comparison you make is a total insult every doctor and for that matter every Indian who has struggled hard to get a decent education. 

You state that “&lt;em&gt;Dare not call yoga a business with your contaminated tongue&lt;/em&gt;”.  Why don’t you make this statement to Ramdev?  He is teaching yoga and making money by selling books and DVD’s on the subject.  Go to the Divya Yoga website to see how &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.divyayoga.com/vcds-dvds-mp3-audio-cds-and-cassettes.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Divya Yog Mandir Trust&lt;/a&gt; is ripping people off by charging anywhere from INR 49 to INR 200 for yoga based DVD and VCD’s.  Why can’t Ramdev provide this information to the poor people of India for free?

Ramdev is selling a “Yoga for eye disease” and “Yoga for diabetes” DVD on this website.  Did you say that he has evidence for all this?  Where is this evidence that the rest of the world is still not aware of?

Why should I waste my time proving that Ramdev’s cures do not work?  People of India in millions seek modern medical treatment when they have health issues.  So will you.  And that is indictment enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stating the truth is not a rant.  If it is then is all the complaining that you Ram Dev supporters do regarding corruption could also be considered as ranting!</p>
<p>What evidence do you have to show that the 8th grader has surpassed PhD’s in medical science?  Are we supposed to just believe you and take your word for it?  The comparison you make is a total insult every doctor and for that matter every Indian who has struggled hard to get a decent education. </p>
<p>You state that “<em>Dare not call yoga a business with your contaminated tongue</em>”.  Why don’t you make this statement to Ramdev?  He is teaching yoga and making money by selling books and DVD’s on the subject.  Go to the Divya Yoga website to see how <a href="http://www.divyayoga.com/vcds-dvds-mp3-audio-cds-and-cassettes.html" rel="nofollow">Divya Yog Mandir Trust</a> is ripping people off by charging anywhere from INR 49 to INR 200 for yoga based DVD and VCD’s.  Why can’t Ramdev provide this information to the poor people of India for free?</p>
<p>Ramdev is selling a “Yoga for eye disease” and “Yoga for diabetes” DVD on this website.  Did you say that he has evidence for all this?  Where is this evidence that the rest of the world is still not aware of?</p>
<p>Why should I waste my time proving that Ramdev’s cures do not work?  People of India in millions seek modern medical treatment when they have health issues.  So will you.  And that is indictment enough!</p>
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		<title>By: bharat(2)</title>
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		<dc:creator>bharat(2)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you keep ranting the ram dev is only an 8 grader but actually this 8 grader has surpassed many phds in medical science. What have you learnt in education- only rote learning cramming up things and vomiting in an exam. Dare not call yoga a business with  your contaminated tongue . He has documented enough evidence to lend credibility to his claims. If you have got enough spunk,then file a suit against him and prove your point. At the end of day,you will learn your  lesson the hard way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you keep ranting the ram dev is only an 8 grader but actually this 8 grader has surpassed many phds in medical science. What have you learnt in education- only rote learning cramming up things and vomiting in an exam. Dare not call yoga a business with  your contaminated tongue . He has documented enough evidence to lend credibility to his claims. If you have got enough spunk,then file a suit against him and prove your point. At the end of day,you will learn your  lesson the hard way.</p>
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		<title>By: Hari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abhi,

How much did Bharat Swabhiman pay you for your endorsement?  Just kidding!

You do make similar claims as many other die hard Ramdev supporters.  You point the finger at people like Sonia Gandhi and make accusations against them.  However, you have no evidence to support your claims.  Like most other Ramdev supporters you talk about the laundry list of controversies that is plaguing India today.  Listing all the controversies might be an achievement for someone who only has an 8th standard education (like Ramdev) but for the rest of us it is old news.  We want to know the causes and the potential solutions.  Unfortunately Bharat Swabhiman offers no solution.  

You state that “&lt;em&gt;To have a clear view of what Bharat Swabhiman stands for,go to youtube and search for Rajiv Dixit&lt;/em&gt;”.  Isn’t it the same Rajiv Dixit who said that 09/11 attacks was stage managed by the United States, a claim only the most extremist elements in places in Iran make?  How can a person who is so misinformed on such an important issue offer a “&lt;em&gt;clear view&lt;/em&gt;” on anything to fellow Indians?  Isn&#039;t he part of the group that came up with &quot;wonderful&quot; ideas like 100% voting, 100% Swedeshi and 100% yoga based nation to solve India&#039;s problems?  None of this has ever worked and will never work in the future.

Most Indians are very skeptical about Congress and that includes me.  But there is no viable alternative.  India has real issues and it will take decades of growth to solve them.  If Ramdev is serious about running the country and be the difference maker, the first thing he has to do is resign from his company and stand for elections.  We Indians do not want another Sonia Gandhi which is what Ramdev is trying to do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abhi,</p>
<p>How much did Bharat Swabhiman pay you for your endorsement?  Just kidding!</p>
<p>You do make similar claims as many other die hard Ramdev supporters.  You point the finger at people like Sonia Gandhi and make accusations against them.  However, you have no evidence to support your claims.  Like most other Ramdev supporters you talk about the laundry list of controversies that is plaguing India today.  Listing all the controversies might be an achievement for someone who only has an 8th standard education (like Ramdev) but for the rest of us it is old news.  We want to know the causes and the potential solutions.  Unfortunately Bharat Swabhiman offers no solution.  </p>
<p>You state that “<em>To have a clear view of what Bharat Swabhiman stands for,go to youtube and search for Rajiv Dixit</em>”.  Isn’t it the same Rajiv Dixit who said that 09/11 attacks was stage managed by the United States, a claim only the most extremist elements in places in Iran make?  How can a person who is so misinformed on such an important issue offer a “<em>clear view</em>” on anything to fellow Indians?  Isn&#8217;t he part of the group that came up with &#8220;wonderful&#8221; ideas like 100% voting, 100% Swedeshi and 100% yoga based nation to solve India&#8217;s problems?  None of this has ever worked and will never work in the future.</p>
<p>Most Indians are very skeptical about Congress and that includes me.  But there is no viable alternative.  India has real issues and it will take decades of growth to solve them.  If Ramdev is serious about running the country and be the difference maker, the first thing he has to do is resign from his company and stand for elections.  We Indians do not want another Sonia Gandhi which is what Ramdev is trying to do!</p>
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		<title>By: abhi</title>
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		<dc:creator>abhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not going to vote for Sonia Gandhi who has 2 billion dollar account in swiss bank.
Her sonwant t be PM,WTF don&#039;t play with billion lives mate.

1.73 trillion in swiss bank proven.5 trillion minimum estmated.

I am confused about NDA.
But i am sure about Bharat Swabhiman.

45 crore ppl in India earns less than 1 kg onion today.

From birth certificate to death certificate you will see corruption.

From Pan Card to Passport you will see corruption.

Name a department that is free of corruption.
Who ruled us for over 50 years????
Congress.

After reading this if u r still barking that congress is better than just go out,see the cleanliness.

See the beautiful roads,see the pollution,just go and have a look around.
If you love that scene then vote for Congress.
If you don&#039;t love broken roads,polluted water,traffic,corruption,45cr BPL then don&#039;t vote for Congress.


To have a clear view of what Bharat Swabhiman stands for,go to youtube and search for Rajiv Dixit.

watch atleast 5 of his videos then u ll have a clear picture of what Bharat Swabhiman stands for.

Vande Matram</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not going to vote for Sonia Gandhi who has 2 billion dollar account in swiss bank.<br />
Her sonwant t be PM,WTF don&#8217;t play with billion lives mate.</p>
<p>1.73 trillion in swiss bank proven.5 trillion minimum estmated.</p>
<p>I am confused about NDA.<br />
But i am sure about Bharat Swabhiman.</p>
<p>45 crore ppl in India earns less than 1 kg onion today.</p>
<p>From birth certificate to death certificate you will see corruption.</p>
<p>From Pan Card to Passport you will see corruption.</p>
<p>Name a department that is free of corruption.<br />
Who ruled us for over 50 years????<br />
Congress.</p>
<p>After reading this if u r still barking that congress is better than just go out,see the cleanliness.</p>
<p>See the beautiful roads,see the pollution,just go and have a look around.<br />
If you love that scene then vote for Congress.<br />
If you don&#8217;t love broken roads,polluted water,traffic,corruption,45cr BPL then don&#8217;t vote for Congress.</p>
<p>To have a clear view of what Bharat Swabhiman stands for,go to youtube and search for Rajiv Dixit.</p>
<p>watch atleast 5 of his videos then u ll have a clear picture of what Bharat Swabhiman stands for.</p>
<p>Vande Matram</p>
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		<title>By: Hari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome Bhargava,

I personally do not care what the Chinese think about corruption in Indian politics.  China is a totalitarian regime and the government does the “thinking” for 1.3 billion Chinese.  Baba Ramdev should teach the Chinese how to fight for their rights.  But then Yoga is more profitable!!

How can Ramdev end corruption in India?  Can you explain to us what his plans are for eradicating corruption in India?  Before you do please also confirm with noted economists and financial experts that these plans will work.  There is a lot of corruption in India because Indians by and large encourage corruption and benefit from it.  It is not just a political problem.

The fact that he is talking corruption strictly from a political standpoint shows how little he knows about the subject.  Corruption in India can end only if Indian society is reformed.  You do not need a political party or get elected to do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome Bhargava,</p>
<p>I personally do not care what the Chinese think about corruption in Indian politics.  China is a totalitarian regime and the government does the “thinking” for 1.3 billion Chinese.  Baba Ramdev should teach the Chinese how to fight for their rights.  But then Yoga is more profitable!!</p>
<p>How can Ramdev end corruption in India?  Can you explain to us what his plans are for eradicating corruption in India?  Before you do please also confirm with noted economists and financial experts that these plans will work.  There is a lot of corruption in India because Indians by and large encourage corruption and benefit from it.  It is not just a political problem.</p>
<p>The fact that he is talking corruption strictly from a political standpoint shows how little he knows about the subject.  Corruption in India can end only if Indian society is reformed.  You do not need a political party or get elected to do this.</p>
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		<title>By: Bhargava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bhargava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swami Ramdev is a legendary Guru, Last week I read a news in a chinese newspaper mentioning INDIAN politics is curroupted, So Swami Ramdev is the one who is capable to get rid of corruption but still many indian people are not aware about his good ideas and so he is travelling all over india to give light to the all indians. And finally the newpaper made emphasis on yoga for chinese citizens to practice yoga &amp; live peaceful life. 
If chinese can follow why dont we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swami Ramdev is a legendary Guru, Last week I read a news in a chinese newspaper mentioning INDIAN politics is curroupted, So Swami Ramdev is the one who is capable to get rid of corruption but still many indian people are not aware about his good ideas and so he is travelling all over india to give light to the all indians. And finally the newpaper made emphasis on yoga for chinese citizens to practice yoga &amp; live peaceful life.<br />
If chinese can follow why dont we?</p>
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		<title>By: Hari</title>
		<link>http://indiafirsthand.com/2010/03/17/swami-ramdev-establishes-political-party-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-5047</link>
		<dc:creator>Hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your endorsement Nitest.  Unfortunately I am not interested.  Indians have done a great job of electing good candidates for the Prime Minister&#039;s position in the past 20 years.  I trust them to pick the right candidate the next time around as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your endorsement Nitest.  Unfortunately I am not interested.  Indians have done a great job of electing good candidates for the Prime Minister&#8217;s position in the past 20 years.  I trust them to pick the right candidate the next time around as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Nitesh S Bafna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nitesh S Bafna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok that is fine - please let me know who is qualified for that  ?  I think you will be knowing it - may be Hari .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok that is fine &#8211; please let me know who is qualified for that  ?  I think you will be knowing it &#8211; may be Hari &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Hari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nitesh ... the right question should be who is most qualified to lead a large, diverse, multi cultural, multi-linguistic, multi-religious country with a complex yet fast growing economy that is rapidly integrating with the world financial system?</description>
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		<title>By: Nitesh S Bafna</title>
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		<description>I want to know what achievment is required to enter into politics and run the Indian Government ?</description>
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		<title>By: Hari</title>
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		<description>Nitesh,

I think we have discussed many of these points before.  No one argues that changes have to be made in India.  The question is whether Swami Ramdev is the person to do it.  He has not other achievement other than running a successful yoga business.  In a democratic nation there is not point in crying foul about corrupt politicians.  We get what we deserve.  So we the people (including Ramdev) are equally to blame for the mess.</description>
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<p>I think we have discussed many of these points before.  No one argues that changes have to be made in India.  The question is whether Swami Ramdev is the person to do it.  He has not other achievement other than running a successful yoga business.  In a democratic nation there is not point in crying foul about corrupt politicians.  We get what we deserve.  So we the people (including Ramdev) are equally to blame for the mess.</p>
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		<title>By: nitesah</title>
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		<description>An article by one Mohan Murti provoked the wits out of me.
(The Hindu: Is the Nation in a Coma?) [Edit]
He suggests we are a banana republic in a coma. Please do read this article before you look at my Ramayana length rant.

We are not a Banana Republic in a Coma
By Ajay Goyal

Banana republics are small poor countries with tin pot dictators. They are usually illiterate countries dependent on agriculture or single crop like Bananas without any developed education, industry or enterprise. As such they are politically unstable and often the power is grabbed by army captains or colonels.

India is no banana republic. Indians are a highly educated, world-wise entrepreneurs. We have a well developed industry. Millions of Indians are educated as well as any other nationa in the world. We are a diversified economy. We have more than Bananas – we have coconuts, too. We have brilliant minds and a professional army that has never taken power through gun.
Banana Republics are often ruled by schooled or graduate military men. We are ruled by illiterate thugs.
At the same time we are so much more than a banana republic. The finest and most brilliant of our country ( and we have many fine minds) with just a few exceptions are robbing and plundering everything and everyone around without any shame, hesitation, fear , regret or scrutiny.

Banana republic often hang their dictators. In India affluent people queue to give their daughters in wedding to such thieves.
We are not a nation of soldiers as many banana republic are — we are a nation ruled by thieves — coteries of licensed Billionaires, corrupt bureaucrats and bandit political dynasties who scheme and manipulate brilliantly to rob and defraud a billion people.

Therefore by definition, India is not a banana republic. This is a republic of rogues.
Sixty years ago when we achieved independence – Europe lay in ruins. Almost 1 in 3 men in Russia had been killed in the great war. Untold destruction was caused by Nazi Germany all over the Russian lands. All of Germany had been levelled by allies and Russians in retaliation. London had almost no standing buildings. India was at that time, the second biggest creditor of Bank of England ( Yes !) They were dead, the Europeans — we were young, vibrant , free and standing on our two feet. That was the beginning of our end.

Twenty years later European countries – Germany, Belgium, Holland, France, Britain created economies stronger and bigger than India. The per capita in these countries rose from nothing to thousands times more than Indian per capita – often 10,000 times more. That is, an average European was earning and bringing home 10,000 times more than an average Indian. He still does. 600 million Indians still live in hunger. Educated Indians talk of European financial crisis but they do not realize that job or no job — Europeans do not sleep hungry any more. They started prospering we started getting poor. Why? Because all we had began being stolen by our own finest. The British yet had some shame when they plundered India – Indians have been bereft of all shame in plundering India.

Then even smaller countries like Portugal, Spain, Greece passed us byin growth and development. US was already a distant dream – that millions of educated Indians migrated to. A generation of Indians lost its brain because of corruption to United States. In time, less than 15 million Indians ( or 0,15% of Indians) living abroad began providing more than 7% of Indian GNP in foreign remittances to India. In India they were being robbed and strangled by corruption – in the west and east they were free to work, prosper and give back to the country. If they had been allowed the opportunity at home - India would have doubled its GDP every ten years in the last four decades. Instead we remained comatose for nearly 30 years with negative or zero growth.

Thirty -forty years after independence where were we? Back to Mohanjadero. Our toilets and sanitation was at the level of pre-historic civilizations – still is. Millions of people can only take a shit along rail lines in the morning – The “Ass Darshan” from Indian railways is world wonder. A testament to our “development.” Every step in Indian “development ” now takes us ten steps back. Wrong priorities, forty years too late, environment destroyed and full scale robbery in everything that is done.

Why have we remained backward? Not because we had no resources or no good people. But because everyone who could get power and opportunity — stole. Corruption stole a generation’s prosperity.
When we graduated as engineer in 1986 and came to Delhi my starting slaary was a whooping 1600 Rs a month. That was nearly US$ 80 per month. When I travelled abroad first time by selling my motorcycle hiding $100 in my socks ( because we were not allowed to take money aborad – while billions of Indian money was already in Switzerland) I was shocked to find that European engineers were earning 20 times more than me. Why? Because my wage was being stolen by bureaucrats and politicians and their favourite licensed business people. That is how they stole the life of a whole generation. Good people struggled in poverty, bureaucrats and politicians rolled in comfort and stole everything around.
Good men from good families with good education with good rank become thieves. What kind of fate is this for a country ? That the best of the best become thieves ! That people can demand and accept a bribe ! That in every day life, in everything you do you have to pay a bribe ! That no one in government works unless he is stealing. How can educated well bread people demand and take cash from someone ! Our engineers, police, teachers, doctors, – they all do it ! How can a country get so corrupt !

But if you think we lost to Europe, China, US and Asia – wait till Africa passes us by. Those of you who have been to Africa would have seen how Ethiopia, Algeria, Egypt and then Uganda, Kenya, Ghana, Zambia, Botswana have developed. They had none of the advantages and skills we Indians have had. Despite wars , famines and long lasting affects of colonialism, tribalism and AIDS, Africa is now developing fast. Look at South Africa and the world cup they are hosting. And then be ashamed at the Commonwealth Games we will be hosting. Even Africa will pass us by. The worst traits of Africa are present in India but the African pride, the new spirit of Africa is absent in India. We are a nation without any national pride – plenty of false, gung- ho, macho bluster but no real pride. No pride and no shame.
That is why to most Indians none of this talk matters. Be sure, tomorrow there will be many to spit at me for saying so in plain words. There will be arguments and statistics thrown in my face and at Murti.
We will be told – look how far we have come. To them I will only say – let us talk about how far we could have gone and where we could have been. We have nothing of what we need and everything of what we do not need. That is when progress is designed by idiots and thieves for their benefit not for the benefit of the nation but lining their own pockets.
Our country is in a terrible state. It is because we Indians lie to ourselves and we pick the lies other tell about us so as to boast about ourselves. There is no positive spin, lie, half truth , statistic or headline from the west Indians do not find and flaunt to feel better about India.

We lie to ourselves that the world respects us. B.S. Read this article by Mohan Murti – the world knows in what condition we truly are. In the last year I have met a dozen European tourists who left India within two weeks after arriving for a six month travel – they just could not take the dirt, the squalor, the beggars, the shit, the hotel owners always ready to rape, the peeping toms, the rats, the lizards, the dirty bed linen, the pan spitting crotch scratching men glaring at them, the drunk bus drives, the rickety transport, the bugs, the diaohrrea… the reality of India that is neither exotic nor entertaining. India can have million times more tourists. Instead we have an Incredible India campaign which is a national lie. It shows an India which does not exist. And when someone dares to show the true India – the bureacrat will always be ready to label it “western poverty porn.”
And yet, we are not a banana republic. They are small and have limited possibilities. We are am enormous country with great potential and possibility. We are a country where 90% or more of people are the decent, kind, generous, God fearing, hard working, humble, honest and hard working people. I am sure this is true of banana republics too. And yet, only the worst thieves, thugs, rogues and corrupt bureaucrats rule over these 900 million. They are ruled only by a man with a gun.
We are ruled not by dictators but by thieves. And while they are stealing our lives – we are helpless cowards – watching them do it.
Banana republics have the spine of steel – unbending stupid gun barrel kind of spine. We have the spine of a banana. Bent, soft spineless spine.
And yes, Murti is right – Europeans see us as boastful, lying, cheating frauds because much of our leadership in business ,in industry, in government bureaucracy and politics is just that.
By 1993 I had been in business with nearly 50 of the top 200 business houses of India. I can say that in no transaction was even one of them honest in its dealings. They did not honour contracts. They never kept their word. They never honoured a commitment. Embassies and bureaucrats colluded with them. Business were run from offices and homes of Ambassadors. False export documents, forgeries, fake payments, money laundering were a norm. Tea shipments were mixed with wood chippings. Clothes containers arrived filled with trash jute bags. Not one single shipment of nearly 1000 made it in time. And yet when these captains of industry would come to Europe to meet me, they would be boastful , drunk and almost always looking for a white woman. Most of them had pimps as their representatives. They would feel comfort in business not with an honest and upright person – but with pimps. And all so often they find likes of themselves in Europe to do business with them too.

But that was last century. 17 years later, we have more sophisticated Indians in charge – people like Lalit Modi and Shahi Tharoor and Jairam Ramesh. We are supposed to have clean government – new faces, new watches , better suits, better accent. But I wonder if it is new shit or same shit in new suits.
Still, we are not a banana republic. They are small and do not have professional army and functioning upright judiciary. We do.

One generation of Indians will have to fight to take this country back. We really have to fight the thieves and bandits who have taken over country. We, our generation, needs to wage another freedom struggle. And we can only do it with the tool Mahatma Gandhi used – Truth and Non Violence. We need to free India from these rogues and we can only do this if we start by telling and facing truth. Good people must stand up, stand in elections, fight for their lives and fight for the lives of their children. Good people must set aside regionalism, cast, language, pettiness and all social dogma and form a will to free India from this monstrous grip of corruption and thievery.
We are a republic ruled by rogues where good men have become slaves to thugs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An article by one Mohan Murti provoked the wits out of me.<br />
(The Hindu: Is the Nation in a Coma?) [Edit]<br />
He suggests we are a banana republic in a coma. Please do read this article before you look at my Ramayana length rant.</p>
<p>We are not a Banana Republic in a Coma<br />
By Ajay Goyal</p>
<p>Banana republics are small poor countries with tin pot dictators. They are usually illiterate countries dependent on agriculture or single crop like Bananas without any developed education, industry or enterprise. As such they are politically unstable and often the power is grabbed by army captains or colonels.</p>
<p>India is no banana republic. Indians are a highly educated, world-wise entrepreneurs. We have a well developed industry. Millions of Indians are educated as well as any other nationa in the world. We are a diversified economy. We have more than Bananas – we have coconuts, too. We have brilliant minds and a professional army that has never taken power through gun.<br />
Banana Republics are often ruled by schooled or graduate military men. We are ruled by illiterate thugs.<br />
At the same time we are so much more than a banana republic. The finest and most brilliant of our country ( and we have many fine minds) with just a few exceptions are robbing and plundering everything and everyone around without any shame, hesitation, fear , regret or scrutiny.</p>
<p>Banana republic often hang their dictators. In India affluent people queue to give their daughters in wedding to such thieves.<br />
We are not a nation of soldiers as many banana republic are — we are a nation ruled by thieves — coteries of licensed Billionaires, corrupt bureaucrats and bandit political dynasties who scheme and manipulate brilliantly to rob and defraud a billion people.</p>
<p>Therefore by definition, India is not a banana republic. This is a republic of rogues.<br />
Sixty years ago when we achieved independence – Europe lay in ruins. Almost 1 in 3 men in Russia had been killed in the great war. Untold destruction was caused by Nazi Germany all over the Russian lands. All of Germany had been levelled by allies and Russians in retaliation. London had almost no standing buildings. India was at that time, the second biggest creditor of Bank of England ( Yes !) They were dead, the Europeans — we were young, vibrant , free and standing on our two feet. That was the beginning of our end.</p>
<p>Twenty years later European countries – Germany, Belgium, Holland, France, Britain created economies stronger and bigger than India. The per capita in these countries rose from nothing to thousands times more than Indian per capita – often 10,000 times more. That is, an average European was earning and bringing home 10,000 times more than an average Indian. He still does. 600 million Indians still live in hunger. Educated Indians talk of European financial crisis but they do not realize that job or no job — Europeans do not sleep hungry any more. They started prospering we started getting poor. Why? Because all we had began being stolen by our own finest. The British yet had some shame when they plundered India – Indians have been bereft of all shame in plundering India.</p>
<p>Then even smaller countries like Portugal, Spain, Greece passed us byin growth and development. US was already a distant dream – that millions of educated Indians migrated to. A generation of Indians lost its brain because of corruption to United States. In time, less than 15 million Indians ( or 0,15% of Indians) living abroad began providing more than 7% of Indian GNP in foreign remittances to India. In India they were being robbed and strangled by corruption – in the west and east they were free to work, prosper and give back to the country. If they had been allowed the opportunity at home &#8211; India would have doubled its GDP every ten years in the last four decades. Instead we remained comatose for nearly 30 years with negative or zero growth.</p>
<p>Thirty -forty years after independence where were we? Back to Mohanjadero. Our toilets and sanitation was at the level of pre-historic civilizations – still is. Millions of people can only take a shit along rail lines in the morning – The “Ass Darshan” from Indian railways is world wonder. A testament to our “development.” Every step in Indian “development ” now takes us ten steps back. Wrong priorities, forty years too late, environment destroyed and full scale robbery in everything that is done.</p>
<p>Why have we remained backward? Not because we had no resources or no good people. But because everyone who could get power and opportunity — stole. Corruption stole a generation’s prosperity.<br />
When we graduated as engineer in 1986 and came to Delhi my starting slaary was a whooping 1600 Rs a month. That was nearly US$ 80 per month. When I travelled abroad first time by selling my motorcycle hiding $100 in my socks ( because we were not allowed to take money aborad – while billions of Indian money was already in Switzerland) I was shocked to find that European engineers were earning 20 times more than me. Why? Because my wage was being stolen by bureaucrats and politicians and their favourite licensed business people. That is how they stole the life of a whole generation. Good people struggled in poverty, bureaucrats and politicians rolled in comfort and stole everything around.<br />
Good men from good families with good education with good rank become thieves. What kind of fate is this for a country ? That the best of the best become thieves ! That people can demand and accept a bribe ! That in every day life, in everything you do you have to pay a bribe ! That no one in government works unless he is stealing. How can educated well bread people demand and take cash from someone ! Our engineers, police, teachers, doctors, – they all do it ! How can a country get so corrupt !</p>
<p>But if you think we lost to Europe, China, US and Asia – wait till Africa passes us by. Those of you who have been to Africa would have seen how Ethiopia, Algeria, Egypt and then Uganda, Kenya, Ghana, Zambia, Botswana have developed. They had none of the advantages and skills we Indians have had. Despite wars , famines and long lasting affects of colonialism, tribalism and AIDS, Africa is now developing fast. Look at South Africa and the world cup they are hosting. And then be ashamed at the Commonwealth Games we will be hosting. Even Africa will pass us by. The worst traits of Africa are present in India but the African pride, the new spirit of Africa is absent in India. We are a nation without any national pride – plenty of false, gung- ho, macho bluster but no real pride. No pride and no shame.<br />
That is why to most Indians none of this talk matters. Be sure, tomorrow there will be many to spit at me for saying so in plain words. There will be arguments and statistics thrown in my face and at Murti.<br />
We will be told – look how far we have come. To them I will only say – let us talk about how far we could have gone and where we could have been. We have nothing of what we need and everything of what we do not need. That is when progress is designed by idiots and thieves for their benefit not for the benefit of the nation but lining their own pockets.<br />
Our country is in a terrible state. It is because we Indians lie to ourselves and we pick the lies other tell about us so as to boast about ourselves. There is no positive spin, lie, half truth , statistic or headline from the west Indians do not find and flaunt to feel better about India.</p>
<p>We lie to ourselves that the world respects us. B.S. Read this article by Mohan Murti – the world knows in what condition we truly are. In the last year I have met a dozen European tourists who left India within two weeks after arriving for a six month travel – they just could not take the dirt, the squalor, the beggars, the shit, the hotel owners always ready to rape, the peeping toms, the rats, the lizards, the dirty bed linen, the pan spitting crotch scratching men glaring at them, the drunk bus drives, the rickety transport, the bugs, the diaohrrea… the reality of India that is neither exotic nor entertaining. India can have million times more tourists. Instead we have an Incredible India campaign which is a national lie. It shows an India which does not exist. And when someone dares to show the true India – the bureacrat will always be ready to label it “western poverty porn.”<br />
And yet, we are not a banana republic. They are small and have limited possibilities. We are am enormous country with great potential and possibility. We are a country where 90% or more of people are the decent, kind, generous, God fearing, hard working, humble, honest and hard working people. I am sure this is true of banana republics too. And yet, only the worst thieves, thugs, rogues and corrupt bureaucrats rule over these 900 million. They are ruled only by a man with a gun.<br />
We are ruled not by dictators but by thieves. And while they are stealing our lives – we are helpless cowards – watching them do it.<br />
Banana republics have the spine of steel – unbending stupid gun barrel kind of spine. We have the spine of a banana. Bent, soft spineless spine.<br />
And yes, Murti is right – Europeans see us as boastful, lying, cheating frauds because much of our leadership in business ,in industry, in government bureaucracy and politics is just that.<br />
By 1993 I had been in business with nearly 50 of the top 200 business houses of India. I can say that in no transaction was even one of them honest in its dealings. They did not honour contracts. They never kept their word. They never honoured a commitment. Embassies and bureaucrats colluded with them. Business were run from offices and homes of Ambassadors. False export documents, forgeries, fake payments, money laundering were a norm. Tea shipments were mixed with wood chippings. Clothes containers arrived filled with trash jute bags. Not one single shipment of nearly 1000 made it in time. And yet when these captains of industry would come to Europe to meet me, they would be boastful , drunk and almost always looking for a white woman. Most of them had pimps as their representatives. They would feel comfort in business not with an honest and upright person – but with pimps. And all so often they find likes of themselves in Europe to do business with them too.</p>
<p>But that was last century. 17 years later, we have more sophisticated Indians in charge – people like Lalit Modi and Shahi Tharoor and Jairam Ramesh. We are supposed to have clean government – new faces, new watches , better suits, better accent. But I wonder if it is new shit or same shit in new suits.<br />
Still, we are not a banana republic. They are small and do not have professional army and functioning upright judiciary. We do.</p>
<p>One generation of Indians will have to fight to take this country back. We really have to fight the thieves and bandits who have taken over country. We, our generation, needs to wage another freedom struggle. And we can only do it with the tool Mahatma Gandhi used – Truth and Non Violence. We need to free India from these rogues and we can only do this if we start by telling and facing truth. Good people must stand up, stand in elections, fight for their lives and fight for the lives of their children. Good people must set aside regionalism, cast, language, pettiness and all social dogma and form a will to free India from this monstrous grip of corruption and thievery.<br />
We are a republic ruled by rogues where good men have become slaves to thugs</p>
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