But we have a plan with reasoning as why it would work. Please visit our plan at http://www.bharatswabhimanbachao.com/Our_Solution_of_Corruption.htm

I don’t have time to watch videos, but did watch one – where Rajiv Dixit and Baba Ramdev spoke – and found it amazing in terms of the ignorance about world history displayed by Dixit, and his praise for Mao Tse Tung and other communists! I haven’t watched more videos but I do hope that Mr Dixit is not advocating communism!

Next I discovered that Baba Ramdev wants to ban cow slaughter. I found it to be a misguided viewpoint and tantamount to religious interference in the affairs of the state.

Following a link sent to me today by one of his fans I came across http://bharat-swabhiman.com/en/about/ (do read this page).

Now I’m beginning to become concerned! I’m not yet alarmed but concerned that Baba Ramdev might be biting off more than he can chew. It is not necessary for an outstanding yogi to also be an outstanding engineer. So also Baba Ramdev is excellent in yoga but VERY weak in policy. He also has no one within his group that can advise him on policy.

Take two examples:

1) 100% boycott of foreign companies, adoption of ‘swadeshi’

This a seriously misguided. If swadeshi means what it should mean in Hindi, then the website of Baba Ramdev should be shut down, for NONE of it was invented in India. Everything underpinning the website including electricity, the transistors, the integrated chips, the internet infrastructure, the software was developed OUTSIDE India. The atomic theory, the entire physics behind it, was developed outside India.

If he is serious about swadeshi, Baba will also need to ensure that all Indians shut off their electricity and stop using bicycles, cars, buses, trains, and planes. And he should immediately stop using his mobile phone. And so on…

Is the Baba aware of how badly misguided this policy is! He needs to read about how wealth is created. He can start with Adam Smith, or at least chapters 2 and 3 of BFN.

2) We will adopt nationalist thought 100%, and while in our personal lives we observe Hindu, Islam, Christian, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain, etc. religious traditions, in our public lives we will live like a true Bharatiya.

I have no objection in principle with this but this statement is DEEPLY contradicted by the Baba’s other statements. What is a Bharatiya? To find an answer to this question we can seek guidance from two other statements: (a) 100% yoga-oriented nation; and (b) ban on cow slaughter (i.e. no one to eat beef).

With re: to (a) I’m a great fan of yoga since it helped me immensely as part my cure of RSI (see my RSI cure website here). I attend at least one yoga class each week even now (apart from a Pilates class, and many other things I do at the gym/pool). But what if someone doesn’t want to practice yoga? Is that person not Bharatiya? Isn’t such an objective by a political front a blatant encroachment of religious views on the affairs of society?

Second, (b) – i.e. ban on cow slaughter – contradicts the religious freedom of Muslims and Christians (and many Hindus as well) to eat beef. How can people live their personal life as Muslims or Christians but be forbidden by the state to eat beef?

Note that statement (2) is good in principle, but because Baba Ramdev is not an advocate of freedom, he is mixing up good things with bad. Yes, people must not, as statement (2) states, mix their religion in the affairs of the nation. But therefore also, Baba Ramdev can’t ask people to take up yoga or forbid their eating beef if they want to – just because he is a Hindu. What if Baba Ramdev was born a Muslim? Would he then say such things? How can our policy positions be based on the beliefs of the family to which we were born?

He is advocating religious interference in the affairs of state, and he doesn’t understand policy. India can never become a free nation or a successful nation with such policies.

Tentative conclusion
Nothing from what I have read, watched (on video) or understood about Baba Ramdev so far convinces me that he is capable of delivering even remotely on his fundamental promise of honest good governance. He will fail since he doesn’t understand policy and doesn’t understand the causes of India’s corruption and misgovernance. His team, e.g. people like Dixit do not seem capable of achieving anything either (from what I have gathered so far, given that they also presumably agree to such policies).

PREDICTIONS

True, Baba Ramdev is very popular, and he WILL influence Indian politics. But the results won’t be what his followers want. From what he seems to be advocating I can now safely predict the following:

a) His party will take half of BJP’s vote but barely a single Congress vote. Both BJP and his party will fare badly in the elections as a result, making it VERY EASY for Congress to win.

b) Even if his party and BJP undertake seat adjustments, and manage to win a majority together and form a coalition, the coalition will fail to provide good governance because neither BJP nor his party understand policy.

In either scenario, India is doomed to further misgovernance. Congress – the totally corrupt socialist organisation will rule, or BJP/Baba Ramdev coalition will rule – which is totally confused about policy.

Solution: The solution for India is very simple. We need a clearly liberal group that understands how to govern and create excellent outcomes for all Indians. That group is FTI. Its policies will ENSURE the abolition of corruption and illiteracy, among other things. No one else can provide Indians what they desperately want: peace, good education, honest governance, health, and wealth. NO OTHER GROUP IN INDIA CAN ENSURE THAT. ZERO CHANCE. IMPOSSIBLE! Sawaal hi paida nahin hota.

Unless – of course, Baba Ramdev’s ideas change, and he takes a crash course on policy. He can take a crash course in policy by reading BFN. That should be the first book on policy for anyone who wants to reform India. Just like people need to read a book by an expert physicist in order to understand gravity, so also they can start with BFN to understand policy. I can take yoga classes from him. He can take policy classes from me. Let the best that India can offer be made available to the people of India. Let us not get our Policy from a Yogi, nor Yoga from me!

So do you agree with all of Ramdev’s goals and do you think that they are feasible and logical?

We know now that Bharat Swabhiman has no idea outside of changing the currency to solve the problem of corruption in India.

But did you know that Sonia Gandhi has a plan? Please read my article about Sonia Gandhi’s “plan” for solving this tough issue!

I am glad at least one SRD follower gave up against questions of logical viability of SRD. I hope whole Bharat Swabhiman will soon follow.

Please accept my salutes, there is at least one person in SRD’s group who knows to accept defeat against more logical reasoning. Everyone else I encountered so far keep arguing without any logic, just purely based on faith on SRD.

Once again, I request you to at least respect Hari for allowing your comments uncut, even-though your comments are against his comments. So far I attempted more than 65 times (in 4 months) to make post with minor critics on different SRD supporting portals, and none of the comments were allowed to display. I have all log of the date/time, site and comments which I will try to publish in Indian news paper, so that people know how SRD supporters make it look like SRD is widely accepted hero, by not allowing critics. There are no reasons to believe that SRD supporters will change this anti-democracy behavior if they get power.

I will conclude our discussion with the following comment.

You have to first learn to be truthful and honest. I never said I “wanted to live with those corrupt situation/environment“. By repeatedly misrepresenting what others are saying you and the organization that you support are no different than any other political party or leader that you complain against. Indians are looking for real leaders and trustworthy parties.

I have repeated argued that Ramdev and his organization have not published any policy that can counter corruption in India. There is a lot of complaining about corruption but no solutions offered. Actually there is one. Print different denominations of currency. So far no evidence has been provided as to how this will prevent or reduce corruption!

One cannot own a multimillion dollar business, make dubious claims about the products they sells, jet set around the world, refuse to stand for elections and then tell the people that they should vote for his organization and then run the country from behind the curtain. This is clearly not the type of person or organization that India is looking for now.

Indians want real change.

I agree with you that India (not just Bharat) has a great future ahead of it. If Indians continue to work hard as they do now success is inevitable. But I am guessing that organizations like Bharat Swabhiman may not have a role to play in building this future. 100% voting, 100% yoga based nation, 100% swadeshi, 100% nationalist thought and 100% unification of the nation are polices that will result in 100% political failure.

Jai Hind

His firm Divya Pharmacy recently “looted” $11 (including shipping) from me by saling a DVD in which he clearly and loudly claimed that breathing 30 minutes the way he said “will cure all known and unknown deceases in a few days”. I consider a sale using a lie as a loot. I requested returning DVD for full refund based on this lie and I was denied. Let’s test his ability to bring looted money to India, start with my small amount by punishing looters and returning my money. If he can’t get me looted $11 in a week, then those Rs. XXX lakh Carores are just too big for him. And by all means, this loot by Divya Pharmacy is going on even today! Now how a looter will work against other bigger looters? At best he will join hands with them to make killing.

Actually Ramdev wants to loot people more by forcing unreliable Ayurvedic medicines by law on every Indian as “better option” on name of culture so that his firm Divya pharmacy can make more money. And his gang have no matching options like stem-cell plantation, computerized within body real-time decease monitoring by swallowed capsule computer, application of medicines on selective types of blood cells etc. There are all latest technology in first stage which is projected to mature in 20 years (USA medical scientists have unparalleled records in following projected time frames, so don’t dispute it) when Indians will be using Cow-Urine as cure per laws passed by Ramdev, if he makes a government. Millions will die every year even though they could be easily saved through western medicines, and Ramdev’s Gundas in government will report the death as “natural cause” or blame it on food grown by “western agricultural procedures” ignoring fact that western countries don’t have similar death toll. I have no doubt that health minister under Ramdev’s govt will report Yoga and Ayurved 100% successful, by hiding all failures.

Ramdev calls Indian womans Maa, Bahen and Beti. Now he lived in luxury resident and fly on planes while more than 20 Carores of his Maa, Bahen and Beti lives in slums. Given this sameless gesture, do you think he will give money to common-man if he bring black money to India. Nah, he will keep it for himself and the gang. Can’t he live simple life like Gandhiji had, with minimum luxury so that he can spend money on poor people? Do you know price of his car? I know, you will claim it was gifted by a bhakt, but can’t he sale that gift and use money for poor like Gandhiji did? This is very common expectations from a true “Sansar Tyagi”.

So far Ramdev created nothing which didn’t already existed before he was born, in terms of Ayurved, Yoga and everything he did. And he did nothing which is not already done 1000s time before him. Even every topic in his political agenda has been used multiple time by other parties before. What is your logic to convince people that he will do things differently and this time he will deliver what he claims?

I feel your arguments are based on assumptions that Ayurvedic & Yoga practitioners are by default pure and saint who are very honest and they don’t have self interest to make money, while Allopathy practitioners are evils who care only money. This is biggest fallacy one can have, and the facts says that Ayurvedic practitioners are same selfish. Want to test my statement? Just find a malaria, pneumonia, thyroid or jaundice patient and take him to any Ayurvedic doctor (including your Baba) and see what (s)he does. All above mentioned deceases can be recognized easily by any doctor (Ayurvedic or Allopathic), but Ayurvedic doctor will not recommend seeing allopathic doctors before 3-4 visits (Ayurbvedic medicines have less than 30% of success rate on curing those deceases while allopathy has it near 100%), so that he can make enough money before recommendation.

It basically boil-downs to selfish human nature which is driving force behind their will to make money at cost of patient, and no-one is exception whether it is Allopathic, Ayurvedic, accupressure, Yoga or any other practitioner including your Baba (Who I found costliest among all listed in terms of Ayurvedic medicine prices). It don’t mean to say that all practitioners are corrupt, but labellings a type of practitioners as more honest than other types is ideological dishonesty.

Given above, the decision of treatment should not be made based on the claims or assumption that practitioner of a type of treatment is “more honest” then other types. The decision should be made based on records of type of practice. While Yoga and Ayurved being oldest, there is no records maintained till date as how many patients are using it as cure, and how many of them get benefits, how many got killed by decease etc. On the other hand, Allopathy medicines producers and practitioners are by law requires to keep and publish records of their treatment which make them feel more trustworthy then Ayurved. That’s reason behind Allopathy’s success.

Regarding your claim on Piles cure: I have two friends (they are brothers) who got piles and it goes away in 3-5 days without any medicines, just by increasing fibers in food intake and removing spices! No Yoga needed, and this is recommended by our family Allopathic MD as a primary cure before going on medicines which worked well and fast.

I actually bought Ramdev’s DVD “Yog Science” 45 days ago, just to see what piece of craps he sales. The money I spent to by this DVD was kind of most wasteful spending. He just keep telling for an hour to take and exhale deep breath, which I often naturally do after I run just 30 seconds to catch bus or train (same deep breathing which can’t be stopped). And of course it helps me feel better and cure my cough-cold etc, see I am a Yogi without doing yoga at Baba’s way. He could have easily said all he said in DVD in 2 minutes if he don’t keep re-wording and repeating same thing, but then how would he make money? He could also have published it free an You Tube or on his website for free download, but again, then how to make money? See he is not any better than those “Allopathy practicing looters”, except that he is very inefficient in delivering his message.

I found allopathy practicing Cancer hospitals more honest, who upfront says (under force by laws) that patients may not get results they need or expect. I have yet to come across a Yog Guru or Ayurvedic doctor who claim curing cancer and admit that his treatment may not work.

I will tell you what I told Paras. Every Indian knows about the situation in India. We are not fools so you do not have to time and again repeat all the things that are wrong with India and all the different types of corruption that is taking place in India.

What we need are solutions. Bharat Swabhiman does not bring anything to the table in terms of solutions. In fact what Bharat Swabhiman is proposing (100% voting, 100% Yoga based nations, 100% swadeshi) etc. will only damage and cause harm to what we have already achieved.

You Said :
Regarding your comments about AIIMS comments on Ramdev: What if I say that you are looking the situation from wrong direction and actually Ramdev is pro-allopathy? I have proof to claim it, look the links below.

Answer :
Yes he appriciate allopathy, but upto the extend of emergency operations and their R&D, their Diagnosis etc etc.
But at the same time he is against the imposed treatment just to please few world top medicine company so that they earn money from rest of the world and dictate WHO to mend the rules.
He has all the praise to Indian Doctors who did their job for the patients but not for promoting the medicine, drugs which will subside the disease for the time being but eventually will get trapped in it to use and reuse for the whole life time.

Also I have personally seen that AIIMS program honouring SRD on TV, but not read it in SRD site. I have got Doctors (MD) in my family, so know details about their profession(U can disagree to it).

SRD is against everything where he sense the West conspiracy for minting money from poor indians. So only he suggest to lead a healthy life style. Due to his Yoga program early in the morning, many of us indians started waking up early to do Yoga techniques (I myself do it regularly from past 6 years now). Before Yoga, I was into the sports like cricket, squash and running early in the morning.
I feel I was healthy, but never conquer my piles(lived with it for a year) and Migraine(lived with it for 4 years).
Then in 2004, I have started Yoga by watching SRD doing it in Astha Program.
Initially, I also started doing it whitout any believe in it, as my wife keep presurising me to do it. Although she herself didn’t do yoga untill she caught up with Throat infection particularly in Winter and Mansoons.
Initially she was taking Azithromycine and got cured for few months, and then again keep getting infected for 5-6 times in 2 years. Then she visited doctor(allopathy) who advised Tonsil Operation.
I have inquired the doctor about its re-occurence, to which his comments where like that
” Agar apka kaan cut kar diya jaye to kya voh phirsee grow ho sakta hein”
Then I give up and told my wife to follow SRD yoga technique to get cured the Tonsil(throat injection problem). Then she first time in 2008 started doing specific Yoga breathing technique suggested by SRD.
Now its already 2 years and she doesn’t developed the tonsil(throat injection problem) anymore after that.
We know live in US from past one year, and we lived in all type of hostile climatic conditions here, but she never complain about it. (U can disagree to it, as I didn’t present you her reports right Bharat)

You Said :
Same goes for your comments about AIIMS commending Ramdev, You just take part of picture which support your argument and forget everything else. You didn’t mention how many Billions of Rupees Dr. Gulam Nabi Azad approved for Allopathic treatment and how many millions of TB and Malaria patients get benefits per year by it (means they are coming back to life from near death situation). You may have missed that part willfully because it was against your argument

Answer:
Do I need to highlight something which arguably everybody knows. Read the word Arguably in my statement, as I have got my Granny died of TB dispite taking all Allopathic treatment for years.

DO I need to tell u that I have seen Babaji stock of Swine flu medicine ran out of stock throughout the country. All these are not just comments, but experiences I and my family members have realised during then.
I was in pune (largest no. of deaths happened their) I didn’t had any allopathy unlike many of the indians consumed. I refuse the mask which almost whole pune was wearing. Now per you I can be a isolated case of chance. But my dear friend was with me got Swine flu infected sits right next to me. He is still coming to terms from his near death experience. He was on allopathy FYI.
You Said:
Finally, it seems that you have no interest in counter-arguing for questions like “Why RD is not saving 700K Cancer people dying every year?”. Now tell me what should I call you, if not “a faithful but blind follower”?

Answer We and your allopathy is living with cancer now for decades, and you want the cure of it from SRD is months. Now see the amount of R&D money goes to get the correct allopathy drug to save people, but nothing substantial has been achieved for these years.

One simple test you do on yourself.
Check your platlates count test in any authentic mordern diagnosis center (Like Apollo)and then do the same test after performing Yoga for a week.
I need not to tell you the test result, u urself would see it in your final report.
This would take maximum 3 weeks for you to understand the impact of Yoga in your life.

1.10 lakh crores are being looted or robbed off every year in our country in the name of medicinal treatments. A deadly game of medicines, medicinal tests andoperations of least significance is being played on daily basis.

2.Another 10 lakh crores are being washed off on annual basis in the name of liquor, tobacco,chewing beetle nuts, narcotics and durgs.

3.A total of 5 lakh crores is being loot-ed, robbed off annually which is distributed amongst foreign investors and multinational companies selling us soaps,shampoos, toothpaste, creams,powder, pickles, chutneys,chips, coca-cola and Pepsi,products not that useful and manufactured with least techno-logical outbreaks. The outward flow of this money is further denting the Indian economy.

4.Another 5 lakh crores are poisoningorganically rich agricultural fields and human health in theform of Urea, D.A.F and chem-ical fertilizers and poisonous pesticides and weedicides. Theirextensive use has taken us afar from husbandry animal based agricultural system due to which such animals which have no use left are being butchered away mercilessly.

As per the Tax Justice Network,Transparency International,Pravartan nideshalaya, Kendriya satarkata aayog, and many other national and international eco-nomic organizations 11.5Trillion Dollar cross border blackmoney is stashed away from public use. As per the Indian currency it is equal to 518 lakh crores and around 258lakh crores out of it belongs tothe corrupt Indians.. The loot is still going on. Black money amounting to 1.6 trillion dollars is still being deposited every year which means even now almost 72 lakh crores of black money is deposited in the for-eign vaults, which is laundered across the globe. It is not a national issue today but has been accepted as an internation-al problem. .Half of 72 lakhcrores are from the Asian conti-nent and further half of it equal-ing 18 lakh crores from India arebeing deposited in the foreign bank. If we consider this amount in terms of monthly or daily basis then every month 1 lakh 50 thousand crores, every day 4931.5 crores, 206 crores per hour and 3 crores 42 lakh per minute.

ramdev baba and bharat swabhiman wants all people in the country to come together and join hands to stop the loot and bring back black money.
Hope u understand the intention and reason behind bharat swbhiman.

Jai Hind

==>…Your word selection is superb, like you said Baba’s gang.

Thanks a lot for above comment Paras, I am glad you like my word selection and your comment is very encouraging! I would try to use words like that more often to please you!!!

Unlike you may have assumed, I respect a lot of peoples, a few are listed below.

1. Yourself: Yes Paras, I have a lot of respect for you for your dedicated efforts to publicize what you believe in, assuming that you have no personal gain in doing so. Regardless what you are doing is right or wrong, your attempts are admirable (which makes you respectable), because it is driven by your selfless non-destructive faith as you believe it.

2. Hari: I respect Hari for same reasons as I respect you, I believe he is not doing so for personal gain. He is arguing in favor of liberty, transparency and responsibility (forgive me if I am missing any adverb(s) here). And he is doing so with profound logic.

3. Dr. Abdul Kalam: If I have to spend rest of my life on doing what a single person say, then that person will be Dr. Abdul Kalam. That’s how much I respect him for truly selfless dedicated work he did for India over multiple decades straight. On the way, he had tremendous opportunities to enjoy every luxury available in this world (at other people’s expense), but he choose to live a simple life and that’s I like most about him.

4 to 499: There are many more like my parents, my family members, my x-boss, co-workers, neighbors and friends.

500: Myself: For same reason as I respect you and Hari.

…501 to 3000000000: 3 Billion middle-class common people living in 6 continents. The world’s economic and other systems are working because of their cumulative work.

3000000001 to XXXXXXXXXX(The world population minus several thousands jerks like Ramdev): I respect them because as I know they didn’t try to make money by hypnotizing masses.

I just don’t respect a few thousands because I think they aren’t respectable. Everyone is born with a little god-granted respect, some of them like Ramdev lost it by their actions.

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Regarding your comments about AIIMS comments on Ramdev: What if I say that you are looking the situation from wrong direction and actually Ramdev is pro-allopathy? I have proof to claim it, look the links below.

http://sweetshenu.multiply.com/links/item/535

The above link has the following.

“I also agree that there is no alternative to modern medical science ….”, Ramdev said.

Did you get it? Above sentence is true and Ramdev is actually agreeing with modern medical science, at least that’s how the sentence read.

But on scrutiny, you will find that Ramdev’s speech was actually against modern medical science.

Same goes for your comments about AIIMS commending Ramdev, You just take part of picture which support your argument and forget everything else. You didn’t mention how many Billions of Rupees Dr. Gulam Nabi Azad approved for Allopathic treatment and how many millions of TB and Malaria patients get benefits per year by it (means they are coming back to life from near death situation). You may have missed that part willfully because it was against your argument.

Finally, it seems that you have no interest in counter-arguing for questions like “Why RD is not saving 700K Cancer people dying every year?”. Now tell me what should I call you, if not “a faithful but blind follower”?

I have mentioned my ailment to Mr Hari whihc got cured by just Yoga, not even ayurvedic medicine. To which he don’t beleive and questioned my dignity itself as if I am getting some funds from SRD.
All said and done, when u know that in india we have alternative medicine available, Our Health Minister Dr. Gulam Nabi Azad confirm that he has now separate accounted funds for Ayurveda and Colleges and its teaching.
AIIMS excepted and called up SRD for its Yoga techniques and hail his contribution to the society.
Now all the AIIMS and Health Minister himself are fools according to you and other like you, right.
Be like that for the longer time to come, as I thoroughly njoyed conversating with u guys.

You state that “So in that sence if u don’t support 100% voting, u are encouraging all the above mentioned wrong doing during election time.” This again shows lack of understanding of the democratic system. Not voting is legal. All the other things like voter fraud, vote trading etc. are illegal and should be addressed within the framework of our laws. The innocent and those following the law should not be punished for the crimes of the few.

Do you know what the voter turnout in the previous elections was? It was about 58%. This means that about 42% of those who are eligible to vote in India in 2009 did not vote. If 100% voting was enforced, about 100 million Indian voters would be in jail after the 2009 elections. I am not being childish when I say this. I am stating the obvious. I do not want me nor my friends and family to be in jail just because they did not vote for a corrupt politician.

It should also be noted that 50% to 60% is normally the voting rate in most of the democracies in the world. In the 2008 presidential elections in the US about 63% turned out to vote. It was the highest since 1968! Yet American politics is much cleaner and less corrupt. The lesson here is that there is no correlation between 100% voting and a clean political system.