Ramdev Qualified to Talk About Corruption?
It is my nature to be very skeptical of human beings who make extraordinary claims without backing it up with data. History is full of stories of people who spent most of their lives, time and wealth following the so-called leaders only to be disappointed in the end. As Buddha said pain and suffering is part of human nature. We humans spend enormous amount of time trying to find simple solutions to complicated issues (maybe the issues are simple and we are the ones trying to complicate it).
I try to follow some of these leaders as much as I can. The theme is the same whether it is the self-appointed pastors of evangelical Christian movement, the fatwa crazy mullahs or the spiritual gurus of India. If you have a problem then they have a very simple solution for it. Most of the faithful blindly follow their edicts and lack the courage to question their leaders, their theories or the basis on which they arrive at these astonishing solutions.
One of the most popular yoga gurus in India today is Baba Ramdev. Talking to reporters in Hyderabad the guru said he would be able to live for years longer based on yoga “had there not been pollution in air, water, and adulterated food I could live for a longer life for at least 400 years”. Assuming this argument is correct (which it is not) then a human being 500 years ago would have a longer life span than a human being today.
But this is not true. Human beings today are living longer and healthier than ever before in our history. But what the Swami is trying to say is that the reason why people who spend enormous money on his courses are not living longer than an average human being who does not practice yoga is because of atmospheric conditions and food. It is not because the yoga that he teaches is incapable of extending a human beings life!! The fact is that there is no evidence or data to show that a human being who does yoga lives longer than any other human being who does other forms of exercises. So in that sense there is nothing unique about yoga (the Baba would not want you to know this because it will impact his business empire).
One of the Swami’s favorite topics is corruption and how to eliminate it. Speaking at a state level executive meeting of Bharat Swabhiman in Tamil Nadu he said “The country’s problem is corruption, when this corruption is eradicated then Naxalism will be uprooted. When corruption is eradicated then poverty gets uprooted, illiteracy gets uprooted. When all of this goes away then there will be no problem in the country”. If corruption is the reason behind poverty and illiteracy then how do you explain the higher living standards in Kerala, Punjab, Haryana, West Bengal or China?
Stating the obvious is a wise strategy followed by the Baba. It will rally the people. So far the Baba has not explained how he is going to eliminate corruption. There is no easy way to eliminate corruption in a feudal society like India. Although we in India talk about corruption a lot we are actually talking only about “financial” corruption.
What about other forms of corruption? How about moral corruption which makes people think that they have the answer and the rest of us do not? Corruption is nothing but a form of dishonesty. If you say that practicing yoga can cure cancer or that yoga can help you live for hundreds of years then are you not being corrupt? Fraud is also a form of corruption. What would you call an organization that charges exorbitant amount of money for simple cures for people in need?
NOTE: 1 month package for Joint Pain is $60.33 according to Yoga Pranayama website. I think I will stick to the Advil that I can get at the local pharmacy for $5.00.
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Category: Culture & Religion
No only these persons allowed to talk about corruption.
Nehru-Defence deals and India’s independence deal
Rajiv and Sonia Gandhi-Bofors and other deals
Lalu Yadav-Fodder deal
Narasimha Rao-Telecom deal
Pawar-Sugar and sports deals
Outside of Nehru … I agree with your list.
Looks like the baba is heading ghe polictical way .. he too might be wanting to be a pm or something …
Whats the need for him to get into the clean as mud industry ..
I do accept the first comment.. Why you say outside nehru.. I dont understand .. it should be outside of Manmohan singh.. Rest all each individual past-present-future have some sort of skeleton in there cupboard and thats the Hard fact of our politics :)
People are in politics to MAKE MONEy and nothing else .. No other reason MONEY is the only
Bikram … I think Baba wants to be like Sonia Gandhi … the backseat driver.
Bhai Hari,
Namaskar,u dont know anything other than criticising to step which will make country better.
See hari, auryveda is based on ahar,bihar and acharan. it is true that by doing yoga a human being will live a healthy life. it is evident which u are not aware.
baba had expalined many ways by which reduction of corruption is possible.
1.priniting high value notes.
2.zero tax
3. 2% transaction fees in banks
these three steps will not only reduce corruption but also stop duplication of notes.
and prices will come to 50% down.
there are always people like u who know simply to talk about the problem and critizie those who comes out will a possible solution which is worth trying.
Hope u think about these in deep.
Jai Hind.
Hello Sitaram,
See you are not being honest when you say that I am only criticizing. I have directly quoted what Ramdev said and I have provided my analysis of of why what he says won’t work.
It does not matter what Ayurveda is based on. There is no government in this world (including Germany and India) where Ayurveda is considered as a science like modern medicine (the regulatory standards are very different).
I absolutely believe that practicing Yoga is helpful. But are there any studies that show that a person who practices Yoga has a better life than a person who exercises frequently?
There is no way you can reduce corruption by printing high value notes, by eliminating tax or reducing transaction fees. The Indian Rupee is already a high value note compared to the Rupee of 50 years ago!! Has corruption reduced or increased in the past 50 years? If we eliminate tax how will the government run the country? There are many countries and states like Saudi Arabia, Delaware, Florida that have very low or zero tax. Are you saying that there is no corruption in these places?
I believe that skeptics like me are the only people “thinking deep”. The rest of you are blindly following. Have you taken the time to ask or research about the tree points you mentioned and see if they have any remote connection to corruption? I do not think so.
Dear Hari, I dont think you read Sitaram’s all options carefully and if at all may not have given a proper thought to it. First point which Baba Ramdev suggested was “Stop printing of High value notes like 500 Rs and 1,000 Rs notes and ban these notes”. I want to leave the question to you to find how will it help..
The reason why Ayurvedic medicines are priced little high/competitive could be because of their rarity and moreover they have no side effects. I dont think you would want to give a part of your hard earned income to the Government.. So lets not fight on the Taxes issue Let the Govt find other substitute as its the common man who gets penalized in the name of services.
Last but not the least I think making all transactions through cards would be of great help as we will have record of the currency spent on each activity.. Please stop criticizing without understanding & Let Good people do work if you cant take that responsibility…
Vikas,
You are a believer in Ramdev who also does not want to be bothered by the details.
Why should I find out about this ridiculous notion that banning 500 Rs and 1000 Rs notes will reduce corruption? Am I the one contesting the elections? Indian currency does not have the value that a currency like the Dollar or the Pound has. So it is important for Indians to carry large amounts of cash with them. So by banning the higher denominations you are forcing people to carry and store large stacks of cash which potentially may harm their safety and security. Printing money (particularly the ones that are hard to duplicate) is an expensive process. So by banning higher value notes you are forcing the government to spend more money just to maintain the current circulation levels!!
The Indian government has one of the largest budget deficits among all major economies. So if you want to get rid of taxes you are going to make this situation worse. Our currency will becomes even less valuable and we have to carry even bigger stacks of cash. So Ramdev and his organization should explain to us how and from where they are going to come up with the money to account for the loss of revenue from personal tax. Your response that “let government find other substitute” is interesting. See in a democracy when you win the elections you are the government!!
I thought that the concept of spending money that you do not have by using a credit card was a Western concept!! Did the organization change its mind on 100% nationalistic thought and 100% Swedeshi? Majority of Indians are not working on a salaried basis. They work for daily wages that are paid out in cash or work for free in return for some housing and food grains from the landlords. These people can never achieve the financial footing or the savings needed to have access to cards. In addition about 300 million of us cannot read or write. They do not open bank accounts because they do not want to trust others to make financial decisions for them. They are better off holding on to their money.
Ayurvedic medicines are priced high because they are “rare and have no side effects”!! If Ramdev’s party comes to power Indians will have to bring wads of cash in small denominations to buy these rare medicines with no side effects!!
Dear Hari,
Your answer on Budgetary Deficit:
As per the report of a commission appointed by Govt., only 17 paise of a Rupee actually moves to the people it is meant for, the rest is being exhausted by the system, which was once accepted by Late Rajiv Gandhi. It is only by increasing the efficiency of our feudal system that we can move towards Budgetary Surplus.
Your answer on Money Circulation:
Again Govt. Records say that out of Printed Money, only 45% is circulated every year, the rest is being lying in peoples custody for years and in maximum cases unaccounted.
May God bless you..
Chandra Prakash,
You are stating the obvious. The devil is in the details. Every politician and party makes these feel good statements to con the electorate. How is Bharat Swabhiman going to improve the efficiency of the government? How is it going to reduce corruption? Please do not keep repeating what we already know. We want to hear about solutions.
You don’t need to carry the money in hand dear Hari.
Now it is electronically transfered.
Last time, how much money you have withdraw from the bank and did some purchase. Or for that matter, being a big industrialist, or business men, how much money one needs to carry in his pocket.
Hope we all knows that Narayan murthy (Infosys) did carry his purse while in india.
Now lets take something about corruption
Corruption makes intelligence agencies dysfunctional and unable to take on even pathetic outfits..
Corruption means that security services get substandard or no weapons or weapons without bullets.
Corruption means that state secret are on sale to enemies. .
Corruption means that billions are spent to buy foreign armaments so that ministers, babus and civil arm of army can get kickbacks.
Corruption impedes and halts rapid industrialization and creates mass unemployed youth, frustrated and angry they readily to join Naxals, Maoists or jeehadist groups.
Corruption means that decisions are taken in individual or party’s rather than in the national interest.
Corruption means that bridges and roads are substandard or not built, creating difficulty in army deployment during conflict.
Corruption means that nepotism rather than merit is criteria for key appointments to key posts thus undermining all critical effort like R&D, higher education and administration.
Corruption means poverty, backwardness, and subservience to foreigners for technology, and thus opens to terrorism and abysmal future to low tech economy.
Who is responsible? YOU! For not doing anything, for tolerating it, for taking part in it, for promoting it, for not speaking, writing or standing up against it in some manner, for allowing media that is patently in cahoots with the criminal looters, currently NDTV, TOI and HT to go unchallenged, and for not voting against corrupt rotten scoundrels. .
Do you have any idea about India? You say funds are transferred electronically. How many Indians have a bank account?
Like many Ramdev supporters you are also good at lecturing people about corruption which we all know about in detail. Like many Ramdev supporters you also do not have a clue about how to solve it. Talk is cheap.
You have no business talking to me about tolerating corruption. You are basically suggesting that if I disagree with Ramdev politically then I am tolerating corruption. You intolerance towards those who disagree with you politically is part of the problem India is facing. Your politics is divisive.
Today only baba ramdev is the person who is talking about Bharat. No one is interested in country’s developmment.We have given chance to criminals why cant we give chance to baba. If his ideas really works we will be most developed nation.
Also we dont have any other option even BJP is corrupt but less corrupt than congress.
I talk about India (there is a lot more to India than Bharat) and I am interested in India’s development. That does not mean that I am qualified to become India’s Prime Minister. If Ramdev really thinks that his ideas will work then he should stand for election and not try to be another Sonia Gandhi. He should espouse his views on how he would go about tackling the issues facing India. His 100% voting, 100% swadeshi, 100% yoga based county etc. are things that show people that he is out of touch with reality and does not have the capability to run a complex, secular democracy like India.
Unfortunately, many people only know how to criticize and don’t know how to analyze. Rajiv Dixit and Baba Ramdev have give detailed solutions to each and every problem. They even talked about organic farming. They talked about ill effects of urea, etc, and many many problems. So, please download Rajiv Dixit videos and listen to them instead of only criticizing people. At least he dared to talk about the corruption, which others never did. We Indians have a bad habit of sitting at home, watching TV, reading internet news and just keep shouting sitting at home, but never try to come out of homes to protest. If you criticize that Baba has give wrong solutions, it is better you come out with solutions and show everyone a path. Even Baba Ramdev will appreciate. This is the reason why Rajeev Dixit is in the ranks and highly appreciated by everyone because he has a plan and given solutions to many problems. So, the bottom line is instead of only criticizing what others are doing, come out with solutions to specific problems that India is facing now. You will get appreciation only, I assure.
Ravi,
Simple unwritten rule of democracy: If you are running for elected office then you and your policies are subject to criticism. People who do the criticizing (media and the common man) are under no obligation to provide their own solutions because they are not the ones running for office. The last thing a politician and his supporters should do is to criticize the electorate. Remember I maybe sitting in front of the TV but I am also the one casting the vote!
Bharat Swabhiman has proposed 100% voting, 100% nationalist thought, 100% boycott of foreign companies, 100% unification of nation and 100% yoga oriented nation as their policy goals in their own website. Most Indians like me have deep concerns about such policies some of which have been tried before and have miserably failed.
“At least he dared to talk about the corruption, which others never did”. This is an argument that I hear a lot from Ramdev supporters. There is no award for talking about corruption. Name a single adult in India who has not talked or complained about corruption? All of us including our politicians talk about corruption. Ramdev is not the exception.
Instead of “daring” to talk about corruption (I am not sure why one has to be daring to talk about corruption), Ramdev should tell us what and how he would eliminate corruption from Indian society. On one occasion he has indicated that he would issue different denomination bills to eliminate corruption without explaining how issuing higher or lower currency denomination would impact corruption.
Interestingly, Baba and his followers seem to think that they have to grab power first before they can start to reform Indian society. You can eliminate corruption and other ill facing India without running for the highest office in the land. I am wondering what we would have happened if Gandhi said that he can get freedom for India only if he is elected as the viceroy of India first!
Indians are very aware of the politics of people like Rajiv Dixit. We do not have to download any video. His politics are a mixture of socialism and swadesi. This mixture is what Indira Gandhi followed for two decades which ultimately ran the country to the ground.
So we have Ramdev who like Sonia Gandhi wants power but not the responsibility that goes along with it. And we have Rajiv Dixit whose economic and social polices are similar to Indira Gandhi. Can we have something original?
Writing a blod sitting in cosy home/office and scolding people of rajeev dixit stature is one of the easiest thing even I can do.
I differ with you that rajeev know less of india than you and me. May be u know it, but lets refresh it.
Rajeev dixit was a scientist have worked in india and in abroad like u and me for years and remain unmarried for the cause. Much Before joining Bharat Swabhiman, he was a active socialist. He has good knowlegde about the wrong doing during the time of Nehru when we have opened the gate to WTO and Arm Dealers (u can call them Pestiside makers of USA, as they are one and the same)
For last decade he was working with Farmers in MH and Guajarat for Organic Farming, and to shun Urea and other pesticides, which is the unscientific way of Farming.
Now how many people leave their decent job (far better than ur job or my job) to be with farmer community to improve thier livelihood.
How much personal money have you put for just indian but not our own relatives. News Update says, Rajeev dixit put around 4 crores in Bharat swabhiman.
U and I would see in future that, Yes speaking againt Corruption in India is indeed a Daring effort.
Unless u protest, you won’t find like minded people. So thats the begining generate the momentum to fight corruption in india.
In the end I can say that
Critisizing is the easiest of the task a human can do.
I am a big fan of ramdevji and rajeev, at the same time I am not having any blind faith in them. You would also agree to me that we indian have burnt their hands with all the politician, so we won’t have blind faith in any body, that our nature, we can’t trust each other unlike fellow american does to their countrymen
I only said that Rajeev Dixit practices socialist policies and believes in Swadeshi. I do not care what his background is. These policies have failed India miserably in the past 60 years. We are trying to get out of the hole we dug ourselves in. That is valid criticism. Critically analyzing politicians and their politics is legal in a liberal democracy like India. You are criticizing me for exercising my constitutional rights.
You are showing blind faith in them. If you care about Indians you should ask them why they are charging exorbitant amounts for simple treatments and why they are making statements about the medicines they sell without having the scientific evidence to back it up.
Hari
U r ill informed about their treatment and expenses.
FYI, I have raised my kids (now 5 and 7
) with 99 % of Ayurvedic medecine, and I beleive I have saved a lot while doing so. SInce I have Allopathy Doctors in the family and in close freinds too, so only can say that.
Also for your information, SRD has Research Lab for clinical trials. They keep giving info on job portal to join then as researchers. So in a way he is not against modern medical methods of diagnosis, but he suggest to get cured by yoga. At the same time he asked his followers to come with reports (Modern medical methods of diagnosys) to support his claims.
Now since you have labelled him as the villian for Allopathy, newer technology, so I need to tell you all these.
Yes he is 8th Standard passed guy, but far better organised, planned in his approach then most of us.
He need not to get the fake degrees in this corrupt country like many of our fellow politician do carry with no qualm.
Also he has not nine kids unlike our politicians, as he consider you and me as his kids.
I am not ill informed. I took the information from Ramdev’s own website!!!
You say “At the same time he asked his followers to come with reports (Modern medical methods of diagnosys) to support his claims“. Ramdev gives medications and then asks his followers to come up with the proof!!
I am sorry. I cannot take you seriously any more.
Dear all!
Just think one second what are we giving to our smiling kids? What are we giving to our future generations? Don’t we want to give our future generation a clean environment and a developed nation? One thing always comes to my mind, for the last 60 years, we have been calling Indian as developing nation, can I ever see India as a developed nation in my lifetime. This question really bothers me every second.
With the recent scams in every department, the ground is cracking under our feet and we are losing ground to corrupt politicians. Some think that they are living happily in their homes and why they need to think about country. Just think, if the country suffers, you will also suffer, your children will suffer. We know what is happening in our neighboring countries. Come let us pledge today to do something to save our nation. You may be thinking is this possible? Yes this is possible. When a person like Obama against all odds can become president of America, we can also change this country’s fortune. Yes we can change if we fight united.
To send a satellite to space the cost is 176 crores (satellite GSat-5 Prime costs 176 core), just imagine how many satellites can be sent with 176,000 crores (1.76 lakh crores 2G scam), 1000 satellites. Black money lying in foreign banks 73,00000 crores (73 lakh crores). Hope you imagined how big an amount this is.
We have started a petition-signing program on bringing the Black Money back to India. I would request to all the people of India to sign this petition and also send this link to their friends and relatives to sign it. Lets save our country!!!
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Jai Hind
Video Links to support my petition:
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3. Also watch Rajiv Dixit videos on black money.
Ravi,
I will answer the first question for you. India is a developing nation and I do believe that India is on the path to becoming a developed nation. A lot of things have to go right for India over a long period of time for this to happen. Nobody can predict if and when this will happen. Anybody who thinks for sure that it will happen in her/her lifetime by fixing corruption is bluffing and not basing it on hard data (This is particularly true when the organization in question is clueless on how to fix corruption).
I am glad you talked about satellites. Imagine what would happen if Ramdev’s party comes to power. Their goal is to implement 100% swadeshi. The rocket guidance system and the engines which we get from countries like Israel and Russia will not be available. So the only rocket we can launch would be during Diwali!
Like many Ramdev supporters you are also propagating the myth of 73 lakh crore Rupees in foreign banks. Where are you getting these figures from? Foreign banks are very secretive about account information so I am very curious to know the source.
You are asking people to go online, submit personal information and support an online petition. There is absolutely zero information on who is behind this petition, what are the individuals/organizations goals, how the personal information collected will be used (privacy policy) etc. And you think that you are going to fight against corruption? Don’t you think that your lack of transparency is part of the problem?
You mentioned the name of Barack Obama and the change he was supposed to bring to the US (very few Americans today believe that he is capable of changing anything). One of the ways that conservative Christians attack Obama is by questioning his American citizenship. It is interesting to note that the petition link that you shared also has an article questioning Sonia Gandhi’s citizenship. Different countries but the same dirty politics!
…I dont have confidence in Baba .People in India have swayed from the path of dharma, that’s why all this shit that’s ruling the country and so are we corrupt, both financially as well as morally! My point is ask anyone from higher caste maybe a brahmin, that will he do his daily prayer called sandhyavandanam three times a day?? OK at least onetime a day? i think no, not at all…they take pride in telling that they no longer do it at all…they eat meat and drink merrily! Long ago, may be before the invasion of moguls, Kshatriya, brahmins, vaisyas and shudras all did their respective jobs and were united! They were divided according to their profession and work. or Varna. Thats why Hinduism was called as varnasrama dharma. Brahmins those days were pious involved only in worship, charity, dharma & were priests. Obviously they never touched anyone to preserve their purity..problems started when became morally corrupt, they drank, started eating meat and did not follow their customs but they claimed their status as brahmins, practiced untouchability then too..they had this right of superiority only when they were true to their profession. So they had no right to do that as they wronged then, shudras were anngry with them, they literally did not accept their status as brahmins, people did not follow their dharma anymore,Kshatriyas did not rule wisely anymore society disintegrated, this continued and a divided society got ultimately abused by mogul invaders and subsequently by the western colonial powers. It is this dis-unity which has caused such havoc in Indians. prior to & after independence this story was turned into casteism by the demon Nehru and his clan , so unfortunate!They are still ruling the country! Unity in diversity was real until then but politicians started using casteism and still now vehemently try to keep the masses illiterate so that they don’t know the real story and they get votes from some 55-60% illiterate India. They hoard money for election campaigns, so that they can sway the minds of the poor for votes! In textbooks everything presented is a distorted version of Indian history partly mentioning the great antiquity! So younger generations believe India was born poor, will be poor and will die poor! So the first step in rebuilding India, would be a mass murder of a million filthy politicians and their families by our own people, this is only possible by Uniting the people from all strata of the society, from the lowest to the highest with an unwavering sense of “Making India a real power”, that is not tyrannic but in peace with itself! So we need to catch our roots again, know about it. I don’t say leave technological progress but after this transformation we can devote more of our time to technology and do better than what we are now. So i ask Indians to be united, be united at all times of good and bad..we are time and again wounded by Pakistan, yet we are mute by standers. why? politicos are in their own rage of making money without a single thought of their own nation, other common people are totally groping in the dark, clueless with the broken society with no unity at all! So follow your dharma and be united! Its no wonder that Muslims are gaining upper hand because they follow their religion to the extreme! Obviously that might be evil but they are following it and more importantly they are United! If Koran is abused in any corner of the world muslims in some other corner of the world protest it! This is the kind of unity we need! This oneness certainly lacks among hindus, that’s why they never revolt against any abuse to other Hindus..they simply ignore it as someone’s problem. if this continues i can be sure that Hindus will be the ones to be wiped out first! So follow your dharma and unite!
Hrishikesh,
I do not have any confidence in Ramdev myself.
But I would not categorize Nehru as a “demon” nor do I share your stereotypical views about Muslims. I absolutely do not condone mass murder of politicians as you suggest. I think you have a very strange definition of what “Dharma” means!
Author: Hari
Comment:
Hrishikesh,
I do not have any confidence in Ramdev myself.
But I would not categorize Nehru as a “demon” nor do I share your stereotypical views about Muslims. I absolutely do not condone mass murder of politicians as you suggest. I think you have a very strange definition of what “Dharma” means!
Dear Mr. Hari,
Seems like you are a half informed person writing blogs like this. You have forgotten bagavadgeeta krishna has said that, wise people correct their mistakes just by some wise talk, whereas Moorkhas (the stupid people) do not correct their mistakes just by talk, for them “Dandam dashagunam bhavaeth” holds good and danda here means not just hitting with a stick or other form of punishments but it means death. Obviously politicians are fools who cannot mend their ways just by criticizing and for them death is the only solution! If you don’t believe in this don’t worry, god himself will start killing someday, maybe by that time we would have noticed more brutal forms of corruption! And by the way study Islam properly, search for this name called P.N.Oak in the internet and read his articles. Islam is not a faith at all and it just doesn’t tolerate others faiths! Simply don’t argue with me! If Nehru was not a demon then what was he? Do you ever feel how poor people are struggling in this country? He made India a haven for corruption. He converted already hostile situation at the time of independence into a permanent situation of filth and everlasting chaos in this country. According to you nehru is not a devil then according to me you haven’t got an ounce of brains or may be you are that stupid to not see the pain of those millions of poor people day by day, struggling make their ends meet OR maybe i was a fool to have wasted time at your blog!
You call Nehru a demon, question Islam and then say I am half informed blogger. You sound like a kid who is educated in a Hindu madrasa.
Your views about Indians leaders like Nehru and the minorities are similar to those held by Hindu fundamentalists. Most Indians who are better informed have no use nor car for such extreme views. I do not want to waste my time “educating” you about Indian history which is something that you badly need. More importantly you have to learn how to address and treat a fellow human being whether he/she is a blogger, a Muslim, Hindus or others who disagree with your extreme views.
Kudos Hari, because of womanizers like Nehru and cause of Hindus like you we are at the verge of giving Kashmir to Pakistan, as per the latest news doing rounds in the country. You seem to be like those same old secular politicians, who in the name of secularism kill our own Hindu brothers and sisters. If UAE,Turkey,Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Italy ,Germany, France,Denmark are for Muslims and Christians respectively then by the same logic Hindustan also should be only for Hindus, because if only we uphold secularism and keep quiet other religions will kill us! Man this is a plain simple logic! No other religions will work here because they are all against us! There are peaceful Muslims, i believe they are all in India because those converted Muslims have some Hindu blood left in them!! They are not yet arabised or pathanised. they are only handful in numbers.that’s it! If you have the guts post this reply as it is, everyone knows the truth but are scared to come out in the open, and thus sheepishly supporting secularism.
Hrishikesh,
Your comment has nothing to do with the subject that is being discussed.
Most Indians like me are extremely skeptical of people who think they have the mandate to speak on behalf of India or Hinduism. Right of the bat you indicate that individuals like Nehru and “Hindus like me” are responsible for the Kashmir being handed over to Pakistan. You state secular politicians are killing Hindus!
These are totally baseless allegations that you throw against a fellow Indians and you should be ashamed of it. Your comment also shows a hatred for minorities that I do not share. Your comments are like those of a Hindu or a Muslim fundamentalist. You show hatred towards others who do not share your views. Your comments indicate what you want and what you are about not what Hindus want or not what India is about.
As an Indian I am concerned about what happens in my country and the values of our country (this includes the fact that India is a secular democracy). What happens in other countries like UAE, Pakistan, Afghanistan or Egypt and how people in those countries treat minorities is not our problem. Just because Hindus are mistreated in Saudi Arabia should we condone Muslims being mistreated in India? Absolutely not.
Vedic religions are not the first religions of India. There were many other beliefs before the Vedic beliefs arrived in India. The practitioners of these Vedic religions converted and sometimes eliminated practitioners of other religions. What happened to Buddhism and Jainism is a great example. So you should understand a little bit about India and its history before trying to speak on behalf of it.
Get lost man… you are a total psychopath!
Yep. If nothing else works … then start calling names.
lol…the author is a joke! While I dont agree with everything Ramdev says, the author here simply refuses to criticize modern medicine while blaming others of not questioning spiritual gurus.
Modern medicine is simply a greedy man’s goldmine. Simply put, it is a joke. While it did start with good intentions and made rapid strides, today the only motivation in the industry is greed. Many drugs dont even pass lab tests properly and are ushered into the market by way of back-channel bribery in order to get ahead of the competition. The number of drugs that have been recalled after causing major damage to consumers are simply too numerous to count.
Almost every medicine has side effects and only tends to screw up your immune system in the search for quick cures for quick profits. “Orphan diseases” are many and the so called researchers never bother about these coz they are not “profitable”. Here’s what the term orphan disease means:
“A disease which has not been “adopted” by the pharmaceutical industry because it provides little financial incentive for the private sector to make and market new medications to treat or prevent it”
There’s so much hype created about diseases such as diabetes, blood pressure etc that even perfectly fit individuals are made to think like they are on their death-beds! I once saw an ad where a doctor was urging the audience to get tested for diabetes coz “majority of diabetics don’t even know they are ill”!! Doctors think they know more about my own body that I myself know! If I feel good about myself, I dont need any damn doctor to put me on a lifetime of pills and fatten their wallets at the cost of my health and mental peace!
And dont even get me started on the harm that chemicals cause to the environment during the production and usage of these so-called wonder cures.
All in all, ayurveda that relies on simply helping the natural immune system that we have inbuilt in us is far more scientific and a much better system that the joke that modern medicine has become.
While both have flip sides too, modern medicine certainly deserves far more criticism than ayurveda does. Why the author here blindly believes in them in beyond me. Blind faith? Definitely!
Ananth,
Nice rant against modern medicine. Your reasoning is upside down. You state that I am a joke because I do not criticize modern medicine. I have a lot of issues with modern medicine but that is not the point.
First of all this article is about Ramdev and his claims. Ramdev and his organization claim that Ayurveda cures a lot of diseases. So far no evidence has been submitted. You level many charges against modern medicine. Are you suggesting that none of these issues are there as far as Ayurveda is concerned? Common sense and history says otherwise.
You can argue as much as you want but most human beings know the difference between modern medicine and gimmicks like Ayurveda. The governments all over the world understand the difference between the two and regulate and monitor these two industries completely differently.
When people are in trouble (even if it is a die hard Ayurveda fan), he/she will call for an ambulance and head to the nearest hospital and not to the nearest Ayurveda clinic.
Blind faith Ananth is “belief without true understanding, perception, or discrimination”. Modern medicine is not the end all. But it is the best we have at the moment.
Ayurveda is an entire lifestyle, dear man. It proposes various kinds of food, for pregnant women, new born babies and so on and thus attempts to govern every little habit right from the time the child is in the womb by the use of natural herbs and thus develop natural health and rigour.
Ayurveda gives preference to prevention over cure. Rather than search for quick cures for diseases leading to even more diseases by way of side effects, ayurveda aims for a shift in lifestyle allowing for a healthy body and a healthy mind. With today’s fast paced lifestyle quick cures have become the norm without any regard for later complications. No one wants to go through the trouble of following a healthy lifestyle coz there are chemicals that one could consume later for quick cure anyway. Such an attitude defies the very premise of ayurveda thereby stifling it’s efficacy.
I myself am a living example. I try to avoid junk food as much as possible and only consume healthy home-made food. I also consume tulsi leaves everyday and brahmi and amritavalli leaves every few days. I can proudly say I’ve never been to a shrink for the last 20 yrs and have been largely healthy except for a recent attack of jaundice.
And what “Common sense and history” are we talking about here? Diabetes, BP problems, cholesterol problems etc. seem ubiquitous nowadays. My grandfather’s generation had probably never heard of these diseases. My grandfather lived to a ripe old age of 96 and used to eat healthily and loved sweets even till his last days.
Of course, modern medicine has it’s own good points and there is no football match between the two systems. Surgery has become sophisticated and I’ll prolly visit a practitioner in case, God forbid, I am faced with a major health problem. But for anything other than surgery, I’m sure I’ll have no need for a doctor. For general healthy living, ayurveda is definitely more effective than your paracetamol tablets. To call it a gimmick is simply immature.
And what is your take on stuff such as this, my friend? :
Vrikshayurveda, an ancient system of agriculture worked miracles in this farm when everything else failed. http://www.abaliorganictea.com/default2.html
I suppose Vrikshayurveda is a gimmick too?
Ananth,
I love it when people come up with testimonies. Obviously testimonials cannot be construed as facts nor can it be verified. Ayurveda can be a lifestyle or anything you want it to be. But one think it cannot be is science.
Once of your statements is very revealing. You said “Surgery has become sophisticated and I’ll prolly visit a practitioner in case, God forbid, I am faced with a major health problem. But for anything other than surgery, I’m sure I’ll have no need for a doctor”. This tells me that when you are faced with a life threatening situation or if you think that you are faced with a dire situation you instinctively know what the right thing to do is. It is to immediately visit a qualified doctor (you will not know whether you need surgery unless and until the doctor prescribes it)!
You do not need to visit the doctor except in case of surgery only if you yourself are a doctor!
To author!!. If you are really a true blogger and not wanting any ad money then post this comment without moderating. It is for our nation.
Knowingly the author is picking Baba Ramdev to popularize his blog. The author is very clever in using “controversy” for popularity. Nobody is realizing this. By commenting on bigwigs only, he can make his blog popular and then earn some ad money. Dont get pulled into this. There is lot much to do in life than this.
[edit] – A huge rally (Egypt-style) is being organized all over India. Check the above link for whom to contact at your respective cities. Lets do it.
I am a true blogger. But are you a true commenter or are you a party member of Bharat Swabhiman? I do not want party members to use my blog for gaining publicity.
I am not picking on Baba. I have made clear cut comments on why I believe that his 100% voting, 100% no foreign companies etc. will not work.
Swadeshi means we should use indian products as much as possible and products like soap,shampooo etc have no technology..Only for their packing,they use machines but those things can also be done with hand skills……
Krishna,
Soap and shampoo have no technology? Who said modern day soap and shampoo are “Indian products”? Which university did you graduate from?